Haha… Here in Australia, it's approaching the end of the 3rd term of school.
And OMG! Finally, a blog post on Wikidot's "Official" blog.
Kenneth Tsang (@jxeeno)
I think it would be fantastic if educational bodies developed and published their entire syllabus on-line instead of relying on text books. They could be continuously improved & updated and educators in different states & countries would be able to see and borrow the good ideas developed elsewhere.
I don't know if anyone else has read The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson, but perhaps something like the "A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" might be the end result of the open sharing of educational plans, resources, tools & ideas.
Also it is nice to see that despite the hard work Michal is putting into Wikidot he hasn't forgotten he is an Astrophysicist, and has given the field a subtle plug in the web-site example!
Yeah but then the schools wouldn't have to pay millions of dollars to buy new textbooks. It all depends on how the money flows, cause someone's got to make it.
I've had great experiences with wikidot so far and would definitely consider it for something like this.
I personally thank Michal and Wikidot for this possibility. However, I have a question:
Let's imagine that a person is creating a site that will be a major part (or actually is) his thesis (graduation work). We could pretend that the site contains trumpet exercises for example. He successfully requested an educational upgrade (when it wasn't as easy as it is now). Now he's finally near graduation. The question:
What happens to the educational status of the site when the person graduates? The work won't be a part of his studies anymore, but his personal project that he plans to continue (the nature of the site will stay the same anyway).
I think I've won a 12 month Pro account in a competition about a year ago, and never claimed it as I've already got a pro account as part of being a "Super Guru" — I'll try to find the link, and ask Wikidot to give it to you if you like.
Thanks for the offer Shane!
But first I'd like to hear what Michal has to say to my question (the educative nature of the site will remain so I'm hoping that I could maybe keep the edu status).
We revoke educational upgrades in rare cases, mostly when it is applied by accident or abused. In a case you described I am sure there should be no reason to take back the edu status.
Michał Frąckowiak @ Wikidot Inc.
Visit my blog at michalf.me
Now that we're talking about educational sites, I have a request. Sometimes when announcing changes or updates, it's mentioned if the change affects free or paid sites. In forthcoming announcements, it would be nice to also have a small note if the change applies to edu sites or not. Educational site acts like a paid one but it's free so in some cases it's difficult to know the policy.
Also, it would be nice to have a full view of features of edu site compared to paid sites (the Pro+ plan is probably the nearest because you mentioned 200e/year savings in your blog post). Edu site is (on purpose?) left out from the Subsctription plans -chart and there are some features that I'm uncertain of (for example am I allowed to create a custom footer like in Pro+ site etc.).
Thanks for the reminder, and for using the blog again.
I used wikidot for a course website this summer, but completely forgot about the whole Wikidot for Education thing. Maybe I'll take advantage of the upgrade next time. I don't think I needed the extra stuff (space, private members, etc.), but it would be nice to avoid the ads (I didn't have to worry about those this time because I still had a Pro account this summer).
I'm still waiting for the course feedback forms to see if the students found it useful. I left reading and comments open to the public so no one had to register. Using Google Analytics to track which pages are visited was helpful, too.
It'd be great if you could get a whole school to use Wikidot. As it is, registering and learning to use the wiki for just one course is probably a lot to expect of students.
As it is, registering and learning to use the wiki for just one course is probably a lot to expect of students.
Agreed. Work needs to be done on the whole "new user" aspect - making things easier.
Wikidot said that they would be working on improvements to the User Experience (UX) several months ago… I'm still waiting to hear some news on that, because I'm trying not to be too demanding on asking for other features in the mean time. The user experience doesn't necessarily affect users like you and me that are already using Wikidot and have been for some time, but it's still necessary, and far more important than any other feature that I'd like to have for my own projects.
I built a college class database using Wikidot, so anyone can share study guides, class notes, find the best classes, and so on.
Check it out … uberStudy
Only had a look at the home page, but looks great at first glance :) will have to have a closer look soon.
I absolutely love it when a new site is… Oh, wait, this is the old blog site. You actually posted stuff, yay! Seriously, though, I did miss the posts. One of the great things about wikidot is the ability to talk between the founders/admins of the site, and the users. With such a large network, it is usually an impossibility.
Does this apply to the high school level? Does the school have to sign off on something saying that this is for a class project or something?
Does this apply to the high school level?
I think it does. This is from "Wikidot in Education" -page:
Who is eligible:
- educators, researchers, school and academic teachers using Wikidot for research purposes or communicating with students
- students and pupils for any activity associated with school or academic projects
- the educational upgrade of individual sites cannot be combined with premium account upgrades
Edit: they just say "school" and high school is a school.
Thanks. I just thought of something, though. Wouldn't it be awesome to have a username and password blank when you hit "reply" or "new post", or whatever. That way, you wouldn't have to scroll all the way to the top to log in, and could easily reply to what you needed to. If the username and password wasn't right when you hit "post it", then it would tell you, but also keep the post, so you could retry. Where can I suggest this?
Yes that would be very useful feature. Right now I had to do the extra steps you described.
Just file it at http://feedback.wikidot.com at "wishes" -section.
Does this apply to the high school level?
As jjs said, yes it does! We would like to make the educational wikis for as broad audience as possible. The last 2 years show us clearly that it is a great investment for us. Many students get hooked to Wikidot and create great websites of their own. Not to mention many researchers who go beyond the educational wiki and buy one of pro plans.
Actually we are really surprised how popular Wikidot is in educational circles. Statistics aside, Pieter once was on a conference (not related to Wikidot) and a random guy from US told him: "Aaah, Wikidot. My wife is using it in her college classes."
My colleagues dealing with astrophysics were using Wikidot to coordinate international cooperation between pulsar researchers. Which, as far as I know, worked very well for them.
So, educational is the way to go. And it is here to stay.
Michał Frąckowiak @ Wikidot Inc.
Visit my blog at michalf.me
I started my educational wikidots nearly two years ago & thought this would be a good place for a public thank you. Thanks!
I've got student editable wiki pages, plenty of resources available for download, forums for questions & feedback yet there's more potential to be tapped. Administration has become a large part of my job so it's fantastic that the students can use the a wikidot as a safe easy to access resource.
I don't force the students to join but quite frankly they're crazy not to. With examinations looming they will benefit greatly from it's use and contribute to the resource for future students.
I also don't think it's too much effort for students to set up, after all they can invite their class mates!
Hello, wonderful Wikidot community -
Sorry to have missed this thread when it first appeared, but after perusing the other relevant education-account discussions, this actually seems the most appropriate and recent place to post.
I'm a big fan of Wikidot, and have been using it for course sites for the past year or so - largely keeping each class separate from the next, because I teach an intro writing course and my students are often anxious about posting their writing where strangers can see it. This semester I used up the last of my 5 free sites. I'd like to keep going, but as a poor graduate student I'm kind of stymied by the $120 out-of-pocket expense of upgrading to a Pro account for another 5 sites, and the more-affordable Pro Lite account actually offers fewer features than I have now (as discussed here).
Is there any plan in the works for a parallel educational "track" of accounts, with the Edu-Free account as it is now, and an Edu-Pro-Lite for $49.90 and 10 sites, etc? How feasible would such a system be?
You raise a good point. Personally, I use a new site every semester to keep things organised - so I can see how someone using the educational upgrade on a free account could easily run out of site slots.
The edu upgrade is on a per-site basis (it's not account-wide) therefore I don't think it's easy for Wikidot to raise the site limit. Will have to wait and see what they say.
The request & question of having and using
is solved today.
There were always discussions how we can use in ONE wiki different classes ( or groups of users) - this would solve such problem of more and more wikis for more and more classes.
I think - this is solved with the snippets trick James Kanjo has build:
This works clearly for specific users.
It would be interesting to implement "categories for every class/group" of users and to use this trick on their corresponding "Live _templates". Here is the place the users have to be defined who can see the content and who not - on only one place on the wiki.
I am thinking if this is enough for every new semester to build one (or more) categories for classes & groups. all other see only an information that they are not in the user-list who are allowed to see the content. (= display:none)
is this enough - or are there more user-specific ( tags?, categories ) neccessary ?
Is this too complex for a structure of an educational wiki?
Another possibility would be to allow free users to purchase slots. The current price is 5 sites, each with 5GB, for €59.90.
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