That sure is great to hear!

The one thing that really bothers me is the only-5-people-per-private-wiki. I don't make any money by using wikidot, but there may private projects arise - for university, for example, or a game development project - which need to have more than 5 persons and which shouldn't be readable by all the world and his brother.

For any educational project, you can upgrade your wiki yourself, in the site manager.

For game development, I'd encourage open collaboration anyhow.

it's a market well served by products like Confluence and indeed mediawiki

I disagree to the extent it's not as well served as you may believe, especially in very large organizations. Yes there are collaborative software packages but none are deployed with a Wiki farm approach. A company I work for, we deploy 300 to 800 employees on a single development project and with so many individual cogs things like data sharing, co-ordination, organization, structure, etc… is vital. Additionally, I work with 60 suppliers and I can assure you not one has an internal wiki farm approach.

Marketing, sales, and consulting are not what we want to do. We are a wiki farm

Fair enough, that is a focused business objective and I can't fault anyone for that. If anything I'll support you a 100% because of this statement. But, if anyone is interested in starting a new career here's an opportunity :)

You are right, and we do see enterprise wiki farms as one of the products we'd like to launch, but it is too early: although the business definitely makes sense, it demands a sizeable structure to do sales and support. Selling consultancy is counter-productive when it means taking manpower away from product development.

In our vision of things, Wikidot has another year or so of growth, building better templates and tools for managing larger clusters of sites, and stand alone wiki farms. We experimented with wikidot.org, and decided finally that we needed to concentrate on our core service until we have at least built the product we want to make.

Yes, you can. Sorry about this (counter-intuitive) limitation in the upgrade panel, but you can put multi-year upgrade in the same "cart", but you can order the upgrade multiple times itself, i.e.

1. Choose upgrade for 1 more year
2. Pay, get invoice
3. Repeat…

but you can put multi-year upgrade in the same "cart"

I think you mean "but you can't put multi-year upgrade in the same "cart"

I know I can order multiple year extensions one year at a time, but can't you make it easier so I don't end up with multiple transactions on my credit card for the same amount? A quantity field that defaults to "1" would be great. As I said above:

I'd be interested in locking in for a few more years at the reduced price, but would prefer not to have to go through the hassle and then explain the multiple line items on my company's credit card. (And it might look kind of fishy to my credit card company).

Thanks,
Ed

Wait a second… are you comparing the economics of porn with the economics of Wikidot???

Even if he did, this was only one little sentence among other —um, porn-free (and more logical) ones. Don't play the I-pick-an-irrelevant-of-your-sentences-and-take-offense-game…

Don't play the I-pick-an-irrelevant-of-your-sentences-and-take-offense-game…

I was just teasing =P

Wait a second… are you comparing the economics of porn with the economics of Wikidot???

The comparison would be relevant if wikis were a mature market, but they're not.

Sorry, could not resist the pun… :-)

Looks like the 400,000th user will sign up on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Should do an article about them in the newsletter, or at least send them PM.
Congratulations you are the 400,000th person to join Wikidot ……..

That's a great idea…

Be happy, you have to pay in dollar. :)

The reason is how I said:

( of course . the Dollars are in their value "cheaper" in my mind).

It is true - the dollar in his value is not strong enough in his currency rate against the Euro.

It can happen in some days if the US Currency will get stronger - you will pay more than an EU citizen in Euro.

But that is fact, that an EU-citizen is bound in the Currency in the EU.

All this is commercial decission and I for my own would not change the pricelist as long as the prices are very near in their figures.
Or wikidot has to change always their price list.
Or wikidot has to show only one currency with all the risks of outrunning currency exchange rates..

But it is simler as it is now.

I for my own would insert a t3. big currency too with fixed prices: the "YEN" !
or a fourth for china - I have no time to check what their currency is.
All the relative stable "lead" currencies to avoid such exchanging rates discussions.

They are not near, Helmuti. They are very different.

The both prices should be the same no matter if they are in dollars or euros. The only thing is that those in Euros have also VAT. Now I will repeat:

49,90 dollars is 33,55 euros. Therefore, the price in euros without VAT should be 33,55 euros. Now we should add VAT for EU citizens and see if we get the price in euros that Wikidot gives us — 49,90 euros.

33,55 euros plus 22%VAT is 40,93 euros. Not 49,90 euros.
So, here, EU citizen pays for Pro-Lite 9 euros (13,37 dollars) more than non EU citizen.

Here's some more calculation.
40,93 plus 22% gives 49,90 euros.

The conclusion is obvious.

Wikidot made a huge mistake in calculating the price in euros for EU citizens.

Be happy, you have to pay in dollar. :)

This is not about me at all. This is about a mistake Wikidot made and the price are paying EU citizens. I think this is very serious matter. The currency rate can vary, but not that much.

@Helmut:

But that is fact, that an EU-citizen is bound in the Currency in the EU.

I'm afraid this not true.
Since the wikidot service is based in Poland and since Poland is not a member of the euro area, wikidot invoices could be labeled in Polish Zloty…

Oh no!

:)