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				<title>Re:</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Just created a wiki article that relates to this design.</p> <p><a href="http://blog.wikidot.com/wiki:design-forms">http://blog.wikidot.com/wiki:design-forms</a></p> 
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				<guid>http://blog.wikidot.com/forum/t-177640#post-573864</guid>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Simpler: users can enable meta data editing and will see it on all pages. They will only see meta data they are allowed to edit.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Meta Data</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I think the API should use 'parent' unless there is a reason to disambiguate. We should be using the names taken from the <a href="http://blog.wikidot.com/design:4">ListPages redesign sketch</a>.</p> 
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				<guid>http://blog.wikidot.com/forum/t-177640#post-567229</guid>
				<title>Re: Meta Data</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>So you mean parent_name or name_parent ?</p> 
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				<title>Re: Meta Data</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>However, the API needs to be made more consistent too. &quot;name&quot; vs. &quot;parent_page&quot;.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Meta Data</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Using the same names as the API</span> Making the API use the same names is a good idea. I think only the meta data that can be changed in the edit is shown in a page; so we can ignore site, category, and name.</p> 
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				<title>Re:</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I'm not sure exactly how/when you'd see the meta data on a page. Maybe it's an upfront choice (&quot;See metadata on this site&quot;) restricted to admins/mods.</p> 
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				<guid>http://blog.wikidot.com/forum/t-177640#post-567017</guid>
				<title>Meta Data</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>ErichSteinboeck</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7925</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>The following are also meta data to the page content:</p> <ul> <li>the name of the wiki</li> <li>the page category</li> <li>the page name</li> <li>user who last edited the page</li> </ul> <p>The meta data should be as consistent (in content, naming, and formatting) as possible with the dictionary returned by XML API <a href="http://xml-api.wikidot.com/doc:site-pages">site.pages()</a> and the <tt>'meta'</tt> dictionary returned by <a href="http://xml-api.wikidot.com/doc:page-get">page.get()</a>:</p> <dl> <dt><tt>'site'</tt></dt> <dd>the site's name the page is from</dd> <dt><tt>'category'</tt></dt> <dd>the page's category</dd> <dt><tt>'name'</tt></dt> <dd>the page name (without the category)</dd> <dt><tt>'full_name'</tt></dt> <dd>equal to <tt>'name'</tt> if <tt>'category'</tt> is <tt>_default</tt>, <tt>'category'</tt>:<tt>'name'</tt> otherwise</dd> <dt><tt>'title'</tt></dt> <dd>the page title as defined by the user</dd> <dt><tt>'title_shown'</tt></dt> <dd>the page title as displayed, including any autonumbering pattern</dd> <dt><tt>'title_or_unix_name'</tt></dt> <dd>the page title (<tt>'title'</tt>) if not empty, the unix name (<tt>'name'</tt>) with first letter capitalized and dashes replaced by blanks otherwise</dd> <dt><tt>'parent_page'</tt></dt> <dd>the page's parent page; <tt>None</tt> if no parent page has been set</dd> <dt><tt>'user_created'</tt></dt> <dd>the name of the user who created the page</dd> <dt><tt>'date_created'</tt></dt> <dd>date and time when the page was created; format <em>YYYY</em>-<em>MM</em>-<em>DD</em>T<em>hh</em>:<em>mm</em>:<em>ss</em>+<em>timezone</em><sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-83136-1" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >1</a></sup></dd> <dt><tt>'user_edited'</tt></dt> <dd>the name of the user who last edited the page; <tt>None</tt> if the page is at revision 0</dd> <dt><tt>'date_edited'</tt></dt> <dd>date and time when the page was last edited; the <tt>'date_created'</tt> date/time if the page is at revision 0; format <em>YYYY</em>-<em>MM</em>-<em>DD</em>T<em>hh</em>:<em>mm</em>:<em>ss</em>+<em>timezone</em><sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-83136-2" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >2</a></sup></dd> <dt><tt>'tag_array'</tt></dt> <dd>a list of tags the page is tagged with</dd> <dt><tt>'tag_string'</tt></dt> <dd>a string of blank-separated tags the page is tagged with</dd> </dl> <div class="footnotes-footer"> <div class="title">Footnotes</div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-83136-1"><a href="javascript:;" >1</a>. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601" >ISO 8601</a> extended format (<em>with</em> separators) for date and time and a non-UTC time zone designator</div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-83136-2"><a href="javascript:;" >2</a>. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601" >ISO 8601</a> extended format (<em>with</em> separators) for date and time and a non-UTC time zone designator</div> </div> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>This is a fine idea, but I think it should be disabled by default (i.e. if someone adds those lines of code, it works&#8230; but in using the NewPage module those lines are by default not shown)</p> <p>Reason &#8212; I want to make editing pages as simple as possible for new wikidot users on my website. If they see metadata at the top they might accidentally change it and cause problems. Experienced users that know how to modify meta data can still do so, just by typing in a few extra lines! :)</p> <p>Then again, you've mentioned that only administrators and moderators will be able to &quot;view&quot; and &quot;edit&quot; meta data.</p> <p>If the page source contains <tt>[[meta]] &#8230; [[/meta]]</tt>, how will it deal with a regular user clicking 'edit' ? Will it simply show the rest of the source, but hide anything within meta tags ???</p> <p>Please explain&#8230;</p> 
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