Tuesday again, and you know what that means: time to vent, express yourself, fume, get on your soapbox, hit the ceiling, run amok, carry on in a paroxysm of demagoguery, and generally tell us what rubs you the wrong way with respect to Wikidot.
Today's arbitrary rule: polite feature requests - Gerdami, je vous regarde! - do not count as rants. A proper rant must be expressed with emotion: "what really annoys me is…" or "Wikidot would be perfect if only…" or "It drives me mad that…"
1st rant: a blog site needs posting by email or by any other mobile device.
2nd rant: it would be nice that admins could edit also the very first author of a post.
Example: on the community website, I copied forum posts from ErichStei…as new howto:include_something but I still appear as the the creator of the post. An admin should be able to reattribute the authorship.
2nd rant-bis: delegations ? i.e. creating pages on behalf of (the boss) would be nice for business wikis.
Example: I am Tuesday Rant:4's author while it should be Pieter…
I'm hoping sooner or later to be able to create pages by email (not just for blogging but as a general tool).
Delegation and control of authorship is important, indeed.
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OoooOOOooooOOOhHHhh. Now that's a pretty decent idea right there.
I mean, uh, Blast it!!! Why the frak don't we have this already?!?
Well, I have something to rant about!
I was so excited to finally rid some wikis of unnecessary "ListPages" module includes when THIS sprung up. But oh… no… there had to be exceptional circumstances where the Live Template does NOT work perfectly with the ListPages module. Grrrrrr.
Copy & Pasted:
Within the ListPages module, the prependLine and appendLine attributes don't seem to properly:
Instead, they produce the literal text “%%title%%”.
Strangely, in the following code, the prependLine works fine, but the appendLine yields %%title%%:
Feel free to play around here and here
For every decent, modest module there's an insane user trying to break it with exceptional circumstances. Will someone have pity on ListPages, please?
Actually the module needs a whole redesign IMO. prependLine and appendLine are hacks and don't properly support wikidot syntax.
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James, try using HTML syntax for prependLine and appendLine. That will work.
~ Leiger - Wikidot Community Admin - Volunteer
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Please allow upload of files at profiles.wikidot.com/profile:username by username: it can help build signatures.
There's a bunch of stuff I'd like to do with the profiles site, such as use a template that lets viewers uprate profiles, so we can show top appreciated profiles.
Any other ideas of what to do with this site? (Creating database destroying ListPage examples excluded…)
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> Creating database destroying ListPage examples excluded…
Uhh, was that me? You didn't like my ListPages stress test, counting all (today's) 357.950 user profiles? :)
Unfortunately, your And here are those 5 user profiles with the most information section doesn't work. Neither of those 5 users have any profile page at all =P
Good idea thinking about counting users!
~ Leiger - Wikidot Community Admin - Volunteer
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The reason why it doesn't work, is stated in the note above the code: “following code currently doesn't sort by “pageLengthDesc,” as page rendering will time out.”
There's a problem with ListPages' order="pageLengthDesc" that (for this massive amount of pages) it's much slower than any of the other order options. I had to disable it and put the disclaimer in.
As a week before - nothing has changed! in the footer ! ( I know, the comments are ignored… )
Eidt: OK,Ok,oK, ok,..,.. the "Built with Wikidot" is now in the "header" - however this is done..
Sorry, I have to rant about my eyes… I have not seen this …
oha, I have not seen this" . Could be this will happen for all other visitors too!?
Service is my success. My webtips:www.blender.org (Open source), Wikidot-Handbook.
Sie können fragen und mitwirken in der deutschsprachigen » User-Gemeinschaft für WikidotNutzer oder
im deutschen » Wikidot Handbuch ?
@Helmuti: this blog has the standard Wikidot.com theme, as do all our official sites except the themes site. It shows the Wikidot logo twice and says "Built with Wikidot" in the title bar. The footer is also the standard footer for all our official sites. I felt that was clear enough.
However, tell me what you think of the footer now.
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ok, - I have seen now the header - amd edited my posts…
Hosted and powered by Wikidot.com
More Than Just a Wiki
Looks good
I would exchange the "wikidot.com" with the link to "about" in the background
Service is my success. My webtips:www.blender.org (Open source), Wikidot-Handbook.
Sie können fragen und mitwirken in der deutschsprachigen » User-Gemeinschaft für WikidotNutzer oder
im deutschen » Wikidot Handbuch ?
Looks good !
I would make the "wikidot.com" to a link to "about" or so…
Edit: after losing my answer 1 I posted this again as answer 2 - after saving there were nothing to see…
Feel free to delete this…
Service is my success. My webtips:www.blender.org (Open source), Wikidot-Handbook.
Sie können fragen und mitwirken in der deutschsprachigen » User-Gemeinschaft für WikidotNutzer oder
im deutschen » Wikidot Handbuch ?
I changed the header yesterday (just the site tagline).
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If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegan. - Paul McCartney
@Brunhilda:
Check https://www.wikidot.com/account:you/start/watching
and then tell us what specific site is either (a) not appearing on that list when you watch it or (b) not sending you emails when it is on that list.
Thanks. A specific problem report is solvable, "I'm not getting notifications" is not helpful.
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There may be something buggy with email notifications, or something I am missing. I disabled my automatic notifications in my account (all boxes unchecked), thinking that I could get email notifications on pages I select manually. Although I have selected pages manually, I still don't receive any email notifications. Not sure why this is.
If you disable all automatic notifications you won't get them. "Automatic" means produced by other peoples' work as compared to personal messages to you. Enable them again, and then unwatch sites you don't want to watch, and re-watch specific pages.
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My rant is about IE6. Why oh why do we still have to deal with IE6: it was a poor browser in 2001 and it's even worse now.
I have just spent a lot of time and effort re-designing Stacy's site at http://southwestimagebank.org/css:pages and it works well in IE7, IE8, Opera and Safari. However the header completely breaks in IE6 obscuring the login/account info and top bar. And Stacy's office seems to be mainly on IE6 and looking at her stats it seems that about 20% of the users of the site are as well. Aaaargh. I've now got an evening and probably most of the night tonight trying to hack it - and I can't seem to get Firebug Lite to work well enough to assist.
Lots of organisations still use IE6 as corporate policy.I am sitting in one today - they have dismissed Firefox as geeky! I think that is inexcusable and it's not even as if they have old PCs. I do however have sympathy with those organisations that can't afford to upgrade to newer machines, that is unfortunate for them and there is no obvious solution although I believe Firefox seems to work better on older machines than IE7.
So this need to hack the design to work in IE6 has put me in a really bad mood. I will continue to sit in the corner and mutter to myself. Don't anyone dare try to talk to me unless it's with a suggestion of what to do.
http://www.bringdownie6.com/
Rob
Rob Elliott - Strathpeffer, Scotland - Wikidot first line support & community admin team.
Aha. /me suggests a petition site. Better, a template for petition sites. Like… http://petition-template.wikidot.com/start
Petitions actually do help, not by directly changing anyone's minds but by providing a place for like minded people to coalesce into an angry, effective community.
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*sigh*
Seriously — I wish it was as simple as telling the customer to upgrade! =(
~ Leiger - Wikidot Community Admin - Volunteer
Wikidot: Official Documentation | Wikidot Discord server
Given the pain it took those customers to get websites working with IE6, reluctance is normal.
These are people who change only when most other people have already done so.
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This is not a rant with immediate applicability, but just something to think about in the long term.
I can only speak for what's happening in the US, but it may well be the same in Europe, that the main competition here for blogs is Wordpress and for wikis PBWorks. Both are free services at the entry level with very slick designs. Have you checked them out?
I think new users like them not only because they appear to be very professional organizations with very professional looking templates, but also because their editing toolbar is so nice looking and convenient.
See toolbar here:What I have noticed with my wiki is that once people dig in, Wikidot is easy to use. But people are terrified to start. Even the minimal wiki code users have to use scares people. A toolbar that more closely resembles a word processor might be helpful.
Just my sense of things,
Stacy
Yes, many people have asked for a wysiwyg editor for their new users. It's something we're looking at.
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Rant one
As a wikidotian, i wish to enter into some sort of dialog with people in the know. where do i go?
Ther are far to many places.
newbies will come here before they go to the community site.
some will go to the snippets pages
some will go to the pro site
some will go go round and round in circles till they dissapear up their own er..er…er. botttoms
Rant 2
(im allowed to cos i didn't do one last tuesday)
The problem with this rant method is that they are posted on a page that says "rant here" then under that you get shit loads of rants with replies that lead to a confusing structure.
The marvellous thing about wiki's, wikidot in particular is that you could easily set it up so that someone could post their rant as a page, then comment on that rant, and that rant only.
Rant three (cos i'm greedy)
i hate smileys!~ Leiger - Wikidot Community Admin - Volunteer
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Oh, how I hate it that you don't see a post's author on Wikidot's “new posts” RSS feed http://wiki-name.wikidot.com/feed/forum/posts.xml. You do see the author on the “page changes” RSS feed http://wiki-name.wikidot.com/feed/site-changes.xml
And, oh how I would love people putting something into the “Short description of changes” box when editing a page — so that not everyone would have to go to the page and compare history.